Changed things around. Yammy receiver - RX-V3900, JBL 4410 Front, Left and Center. The front presence speakers (Yamaha unique thing - kind of cool for football games) are custom made cheapies with an ok Vifa tweet. In the back, Energy diposes and NHT Super Zeros on the sides.
Sub is the Velo with a dead plate amp running passive driven by two channels of a Parasound HCA-1206 in bridged mono mode (which is hanging vertically from the wall in the eq area). Actually sounds good!
Room surfaces are harsh - need to work on tweaking that.