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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2013, 12:05:31 AM »
Very nice. I love tubes. But...they don't always control the bass as well as SS amps do.
Based on Pepe's specific damping criteria it sound like a SS amp is in his future.
IMO ultimate woofer control is handled by class d.  At least the hypex, T-amps, B+O ICE amps that I heard.

Superb grip on the woofers. 

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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2013, 12:55:37 AM »
I have used a fair amount of different amplifiers at this point and must say, typically I agree with you. However, the Carver Black Beauties have the best bass control I have ever heard in my life. However, my Golden Tube SE 100 amps for bass are lacking. I am currently testing the hurricanes and they seem impressive but might lack some of the slam. I will post an updated review when I have listened to some music that has clean, quick, deep bass. I will say so far these probably compare favorably to the unmodded Chiro C-300. I no longer own any other SS amps.
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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2013, 02:08:49 AM »
I remember that Aragon pre/amp combo that Tom had at the shop a few years ago.  Sounded like ass.  I think that's Deek's new goal, get the worse sounding system by spending the most amount of money.   :laugh:

Agreed, Rev.

Pepe, have you considered this?

 http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/ele/4176300960.html

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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2013, 09:46:25 AM »
The Carver Black beauties make Stephen's ML Request sing - a textbook definition of synergy.  The bass is simply amazing.

As for my objective - I am not ending up with a Soundesign all-in-one,  I want to go a bit further downstream to a Juliette all in one.  That is the vision!  I am not going Bose though. 

More to the point of my post:  I am looking for a solid state amp that will give quick and strong instructions to the 6 infnity woofs in the bass towers.  I am close with the Chiro I am using now,  but really need a tad more power (200W is my target),  so looking for more amps to try.  Will also try moving the amps even closer to the towers to make the speaker cable shorter.   

Thanks all,

Pepe

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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2013, 10:05:29 AM »
I have experience with the Hafler 500. I once ran 4 kappa perfect subwoofers for hours with one. The subs were wired in parallel pairs, giving the amp a 2 ohm per channel load, and it did it with authority. I can't speak for the Aragon because I've never owned one, but I'm sure the 500 will do the job well. The big drawback with the 500 is if something goes wrong, and you need to replace transistors, there are no current replacements, and the originals are very expensive.
I am confident that an SL-1200 is capable of outperforming turntables of much higher expense with minor modification.

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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2013, 12:59:54 PM »
Pepe, have you considered a pair of these?

http://www.marklevinson.com/Products/Details/186

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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2013, 01:15:47 PM »
If you do want those I know of a pair for sale in Boston.  :P
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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2013, 01:55:11 PM »
The only reason I bring them up is because I remember a guy on A-Gon a few years back who was running the Infinity IRS Beta setup and had excellent results with the N 33's.


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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2013, 04:44:04 PM »
No Levinsons in the target list. 

Just received the DBX Driverack and microphone - will report on that later. 

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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2013, 05:21:07 PM »
Pepe, have you considered a pair of these?

http://www.marklevinson.com/Products/Details/186
Those are some kinda heavy bastards!!!! ONny 300 watts into 8 ohms????:o
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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2013, 05:30:27 PM »
Pepe, have you considered a pair of these?

http://www.marklevinson.com/Products/Details/186
Those are some kinda heavy bastards!!!! ONny 300 watts into 8 ohms????:o

300 Class A watts = 2400 Watts at 1 ohm.

Each N 33 has TWELVE 39,000 nano Farad caps. Sweet Jesus.

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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2013, 07:42:39 PM »
These require a 220 volt line and 30-35 amps of current, per amp (combined, more than an electric range or whole house air).  Time for a new breaker box and possibly new mains into the house!
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Re: Wanted - Krell KAV-150 or Aragon power amp
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2013, 11:01:49 PM »
IIRC, each amp weighs around 400 lbs.  Not easy to carry upstairs LOL!
Carl