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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2014, 01:06:57 PM »
I had KLH 6's and sold them because I didn't like them much.
Highs rolled off above 10k.
I like my KLH 20's better.

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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2014, 02:45:49 PM »
Here's a pic of the crossover. Capacitor is 15mf, 50v.
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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2014, 04:02:33 PM »
Looks easy enough, just follow 8w's advice.

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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2014, 05:39:15 PM »
1.  Electrolytics are meant for use in DC circuits in which they work fine
2.  They have very high electrical leakage and poor transient response when compared to film caps
             (translation=they sound bad)
3.  If you look at the waveform through one on a scope you'll see how bad they perform for AC.
4.  Electrolytics don't last as long as films and is why tube amps need to be re-capped after a number of years.
5.  Tolerance for electrolytics is horrible, in the 20-40% range
6. A non polarized electrolytic is nothing more than two polarized electrolytics wired back to back in a single package.

Only reasons to use them is that they are cheap and when sound quality is not important.

I appreciate all of that info.   The one thing you didn't answer is "Weren't the original caps in most of the old Pioneers and Sansuis NPEs?"

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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2014, 07:03:34 PM »
Is that an NPE in Mongo's pic above?

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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2014, 07:41:05 PM »
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I appreciate all of that info.   The one thing you didn't answer is "Weren't the original caps in most of the old Pioneers and Sansuis NPEs?"

Didn't answer cuz I don't know. It wouldn't surprise me if they were NPEs in the old Japanese speakers.

Also, yes that is an NPE in the picture.
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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2014, 11:57:29 PM »
Thanks.

One more newbie question.   I assume that the film caps aren't listed as "polar" or "non-polar" because all film caps are non-polar.   Is this correct?   I don't want to order the wrong thing.

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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2014, 01:00:11 AM »
Film and foil caps and metalized film caps are both non-polar.

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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2014, 12:16:10 AM »
Is a "metallized polypropylene" a film or foil cap?   tubesandmore.com has some great prices on some Solens.

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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2014, 01:09:30 AM »
Is a "metallized polypropylene" a film or foil cap?   tubesandmore.com has some great prices on some Solens.

http://vintagehifipgh.com/forum/index.php?topic=3091.msg29969#msg29969

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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2014, 10:16:38 PM »
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Re: Optimus 1b
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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2014, 11:24:06 PM »
Didn't see those, I'll check again.
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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2014, 08:49:00 AM »
I recap give away speakers with the NPEs.   I've been convinced to use the better caps in my "keepers".

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Re: Optimus 1b
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2014, 08:55:21 AM »
At that value, the Audyn's are even a few cents cheaper than the house brand...

http://www.parts-express.com/audyn-cap-q4-15uf-400v-mkp-metalized-polypropylene-foil-crossover-capacitor--027-119