I may be the only one who didn't care for them. Mark was nice enough to lend me a pair of Forte's, or was it KG4, and then his Heresy's. I loved the efficiency of them with a low power tube amp, but they were just way too bright and forward for my liking. I do believe they were the most capable speaker I've heard with my tube amp to get the highest possible volume level with no break up or distortion. My ears prefer a more "brown", mellow, laid back sound.