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Title: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on August 20, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
If you know where I can find one, please let me know...

Thanks,

Pepe
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: papabearjew on August 20, 2013, 10:15:50 PM
I wouldn't mind getting a RTR copy of that myself. 
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on August 20, 2013, 10:45:21 PM
Excellent point - looking for either or - vinyl or LP.   >:D
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on August 21, 2013, 12:35:02 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SANTANA-Moonflower-PROMO-Record-Album-Double-LP-C2-34914-NM-M-/151104037753?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item232e80a379 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SANTANA-Moonflower-PROMO-Record-Album-Double-LP-C2-34914-NM-M-/151104037753?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item232e80a379)

For releases on Columbia from the late 70s (IIRC), WLPs are the best way to go.   A lot of the late 60s/early 70s stuff on Columbia actually sounded best on the UK pressings.   There was an engineer over there who insisted on 1st generation tapes and was a brilliant cutter.   My UK "It's a Beautiful Day" crushes any US copy I've heard.    Friends I trust tell me the same is true for Dylans releases of that era.   But in the late 70s US Columbia got much tighter loaning out the masters (when they started their own half speed inset) and from that point the WLPs are the best route to the master tape sound.

If this guy is grading accurately I think you would be very happy with this one (but that's a big "if").   I'll keep my eyes open in my travels.
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Reverend on August 21, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
I think I have a copy of this album, I'll look when I get back.
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on September 22, 2013, 01:24:54 PM
Did you ever find Moonflower?   I'm still keeping my eyes open.
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on September 22, 2013, 02:40:28 PM
Negative ghost rider.  But I also did not look very hard, what with the craziness at work.  PBJ is recording the 1st album for me in RTR,  so that is progress.  I also discovered that old crappy records sound a tad better when recorded with DBX encoding (that is my story and I am sticking to it).  So will give my copy of Moonflower a try w that.  I should also email Jerry at J Records to see if he can help me find one.  Thanks Mark...
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on September 22, 2013, 04:44:40 PM
The only problem with Jerry (IMHO) is that he gets a little loose with grading sometimes.   He has five of everything.   One can be stone cold unplayed and the other can look like it was tied to your back bumper and dragged around the Strip District and they will both be $5.

Jerry's is a cultural icon, we are so much more than lucky to have it here, but I find it to be a very "hands on" type of establishment.
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on September 22, 2013, 04:45:47 PM
BTW, Pepe, I have a growing goodie bag for you.   When and where should I leave it?
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on September 22, 2013, 05:46:55 PM
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look like it was tied to your back bumper and dragged around the Strip District

Great way to put it...  I think he has a bunch of employees/volunteers who may or may not understand the grading (which not always clearly displayed - M, NM, VG, G and Poor).   

If you drop it off at Papabear or Tom's that would work as I need to drop by sometime during the week/end - thanks!

Pepe

PS - @PBJ - I plan to drop b y soon to return the DVD,   waiting to know you are done w the recording
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Jim Pittsburgh on September 23, 2013, 08:24:27 AM
I have both a 180 gram reissue copy and an original release of Moonflower I can make available... but not planning on being at the store until the swap meet.. and no offence but it would depend on what they / it would be played on. I also have an 180 gram copies  of Love Devotion Surrender and Abraxus...  ... and 5 or 6 other Santana albums in various states of play/ condition... lol     If you can let me know what they would be played on, and someone from the south hills ( near McMurray) is coming to the shop... I could send them along...  but would also like to know how/when they would get back to me....  lending albums is even worse / harder than lending tools lol ...  And yes,  I was that guy in college etc... threat of significant physical harm and ability to back it up lol     
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on September 23, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
Jim - Thanks

It would be played on Rega RP-1 w a Grado Sonata Reference 1 -  should be fairly harmless.  Maybe it would be best if I wait for you to get close to my side of the world and we record it while you are at the cave,  have a beer while the reels spin. 

My next visit to the shop will be for the Swap meet as well in all probability.
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: MacGeek on September 23, 2013, 01:08:32 PM
It's not what started this thread, but fyi, I have two copies of Abraxus, one of which I am willing to let go.  It's standard vinyl fare, not played much because I picked up a 180 grain version soon after I bought it. 
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Slim-Shaddy on September 23, 2013, 01:20:32 PM
AbraxAs... Unless there is another one called AbraxUs that I don't know about.
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: papabearjew on September 23, 2013, 01:36:11 PM
CTD already gave me a 7" RTR tape to record Santana (first album) on side one and Abraxas on side two.  Both albums were bought new by me back in the day and are in excellent condition.  @CTD I'm planning on recording today or tomorrow since Wednesday is Chemo day.  Should I proceed as planned?
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on September 23, 2013, 01:55:59 PM
Yes - no DBX - record as normal, high speed....

Regards,

Pepe
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: papabearjew on September 23, 2013, 04:30:45 PM
10-4 Pepe
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Jim Pittsburgh on September 23, 2013, 04:51:26 PM
You are welcome to borrow any of my albums to record... let me know what you are looking for besides Moon Flower, and if I have it,  I'll bring it... just don't want them played on junk.. vintage or otherwise lol  that's all.. I'm picky that way... lol 

I might try and get to the shop this Saturday night the 28th if anyone is going...  so I could bring them then...  and pick them up when I leave the swap meet?

Have lots of R&R... Beatles, Zepplin, CSN&Y, Bowie, Humble Pie, etc... an OK selection of Jazz and bit of Blues and Motown... never enough... +700 to pick from... and I'm the original owner of +80%. Those from 1973 (Phillips 212) and up were all only played on some pretty decent tables and were well cared for... I have the Zepplin Mothership 5 album reissue set... and the Black Keys, Sharon Jones, the Decemberists and a few other new releases. 

Also have a few CDs if you can play / record those and I have a hard drive with over 2/3 of a terra bite of MP3s that were a complete radio station playlist ....  and I mean everything from the 50s until about 2008. Takes about 4-5 hours to copy...

I'm glad to share... 

Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: papabearjew on September 23, 2013, 06:06:00 PM
Hey Jim,
You don't have to worry about Pepe damaging your prized records.  Ever since he taped a quarter onto the headshell the Rega tracks like a railroad train
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on September 23, 2013, 06:30:27 PM
 >:D :laugh:
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Jim Pittsburgh on September 24, 2013, 08:18:43 AM
the worse part of that statement about nickels is that I remember doing just that on my first record player...  you know the box kind with the lid and a handle... too funny....  :laugh:  those poor albums... was learning to play guitar then so it was play the same bit over and over and over lol  Don't know what happened to some of those albums  Dave Clark 5, Willie Nelson, Ray Orboson, Hermans Hermits, Petula Clark, Dylan, the Animals, Beatles and the Stones to name a few.. lol   I still have the first few Beatles in mono though.. couldn't afford the stereo ones... 

I hope you guys understand about loaning tools and vinyl...  bad experiences loaning both lol 

The offer still goes though... If anyone wants to copy the drive with the radio station play list...... also albums/ cds ... I can bring them Saturday night or to the swap meet...
Title: Re: looking for a new or slightly used copy of Santana Moonflower LP (vinyl)
Post by: Jim Pittsburgh on September 28, 2013, 08:56:02 AM
I should be able to make it to the shop tonight 9/28 at some point ... should I bring the hard drive (with the playlist) and albums? I can leave them for the week...(swap meet)  Would appreciate a yea or nay....