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Title: Outdoor speakers
Post by: scorpio333 on June 23, 2015, 09:30:56 PM
I'm planning to tear out our existing deck and replacing it. I've got a fireplace clean out door I can run wires to to the living room. Not looking for an expensive pair, but not some cheap speakers in a rock either. Anyone have a recommendation?? The wife is going to go nuts when this happens and I'm running back n forth flipping records.  >:D
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on June 23, 2015, 11:29:12 PM
Will they be covered or do you need water resistant?
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: Jim Pittsburgh on June 24, 2015, 08:02:21 AM
I have two pair of KEF Ventura 5 speakers on my patio and deck.... they sound amazing as Pepe will attest. surprisingly good bass and imaging. I highly recommend them... You can find them open box or used from time to time. Check out Accessories4less.com good people to deal with. It's worth spending the few extra dollars over the cheap ones... These are worth the premium over the no name, Bose, Polk and HK outdoor speakers I've heard.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/kefventura5-p/kef-ventura-5-outdoor-5-all-weather-loudspeakers-pair/1.html?child=KEFVENTURA5BLK (http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/kefventura5-p/kef-ventura-5-outdoor-5-all-weather-loudspeakers-pair/1.html?child=KEFVENTURA5BLK)
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: scorpio333 on June 24, 2015, 08:44:54 AM
Will they be covered or do you need water resistant?

Water resistant preferred.

I have two pair of KEF Ventura 5 speakers on my patio and deck.... they sound amazing as Pepe will attest. surprisingly good bass and imaging. I highly recommend them... You can find them open box or used from time to time. Check out Accessories4less.com good people to deal with. It's worth spending the few extra dollars over the cheap ones... These are worth the premium over the no name, Bose, Polk and HK outdoor speakers I've heard.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/kefventura5-p/kef-ventura-5-outdoor-5-all-weather-loudspeakers-pair/1.html?child=KEFVENTURA5BLK (http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/kefventura5-p/kef-ventura-5-outdoor-5-all-weather-loudspeakers-pair/1.html?child=KEFVENTURA5BLK)

Thanks, that'll give me a good starting point.
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: bmwr75 on June 24, 2015, 09:37:07 AM
Here is what I have used for the last 10 years.  Klipsch AW-650

http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-AW-650-Reference-Outdoor-Loudspeaker/dp/B00096ZRJ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435152979&sr=8-1&keywords=klipsch+650&pebp=1435152974417&perid=0P3Z458QST00N4T5G60K (http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-AW-650-Reference-Outdoor-Loudspeaker/dp/B00096ZRJ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435152979&sr=8-1&keywords=klipsch+650&pebp=1435152974417&perid=0P3Z458QST00N4T5G60K)
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on June 24, 2015, 11:44:38 AM
I have two pair of KEF Ventura 5 speakers on my patio and deck.... they sound amazing as Pepe will attest. surprisingly good bass and imaging. I highly recommend them... You can find them open box or used from time to time. Check out Accessories4less.com good people to deal with. It's worth spending the few extra dollars over the cheap ones... These are worth the premium over the no name, Bose, Polk and HK outdoor speakers I've heard.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/kefventura5-p/kef-ventura-5-outdoor-5-all-weather-loudspeakers-pair/1.html?child=KEFVENTURA5BLK (http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/kefventura5-p/kef-ventura-5-outdoor-5-all-weather-loudspeakers-pair/1.html?child=KEFVENTURA5BLK)

I have owned a bunch of outdoor speakers through the years, multiple Paradigms,  Infinity, JBL, Polk, etc.   They all produced listenable sound for BBQ'ing background music.  These KEFs are the only ones I have listened to that actually image well.  And the bass is decent. 
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: non-prophet on June 24, 2015, 12:21:58 PM
Boston Acoustics Grand Voyagers, water-proof and paintable.  Sound great, but, would only purchase these on the used market.  I think they retail for $599. 
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: scorpio333 on June 25, 2016, 09:17:39 PM
I looked around for the Kefs, was waiting for a pair to come up for $149. I tore the deck off today and wants tunes while I was doing it. Earlier in the week I ordered a pair of Dayton Audio IO655B. Ran 50' of 14 gauge Parts Express Chinese speaker wire from the Kenwood KA 7300 redneck style across the floor and out the door. The Dual 1249 with the Shure V15 VxMR is the only thing hooked up to the Kenwood, so it was a record day. Work for 20 minutes, water, flip record. I'm now on the back porch listening to Howlin Wolf and the $86 for these speakers was worth it. May grab another pair for when the deck is done.
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: Jim Pittsburgh on June 26, 2016, 05:44:14 PM
Nice.....can't beat having music out on the deck!

 had the deck KEFs cranking last night....  playing Bunko with a few other couples out on the patio/ deck.
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: scorpio333 on June 26, 2016, 10:38:00 PM
Nice.....can't beat having music out on the deck.

Likely going to be a week or two before I have a deck again to test that out. But they cranked all day on the patio (cement slab) right next to the deck.

I am horrible at guessing distance. Last night I ran the 100' spool of wire down through the living room wall, between the floor and basement ceiling and out onto the patio. I've only got about 10' of wire left outside. I'm thinking of putting an outdoor electric box on the wall with speaker terminals inside it. Then run two sets of wires, one for patio and the other over for the deck. That way depending where I want them I can move the speakers and not have to fuss over the wires. While the deck boards are off I can bury them out of site.
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: Jim Pittsburgh on June 27, 2016, 08:47:48 AM
My distances aren't quite as long... but when I decided to add the second set of speakers,  I put a small sealed electrical box under the room and split/ran the two sets of LR from there. When I built the new room, I prewired one set into the wall outside, and later ran the second set along gutters etc to hide the wires. High wife acceptance factor lol  I used low oxy in wall wire throughout. Nothing other than the last 4" of wire is exposed in any way.   I used 12 gauge wire throughout. The Technics SE-TX100 amp I am using for them is happy to push low ohm loads so no problem with the way I wired them!   
Title: Re: Outdoor speakers
Post by: EmperorNorton on June 28, 2016, 06:27:17 AM
It looks like I will have to replacing at least one of my deck speakers.  I noticed the bass breaking up this weekend when I had it cranked a little so suspect the foam may need replaced.