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Audio Discussion => List your system => Topic started by: mikey813 on January 02, 2010, 11:01:06 PM
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Here is my collection and a few pictures.
System 1:
PlayStation 3 slim 120 gb
Mitsubishi DA-u300
Mitsubishi DA-f200
Boston Acoustic A-200s
Philips DVD-751
27 inch RCA tv
System 2:
Jensens not sure what the model is
Pioneer SX-3500
Pioneer PD-M40
Homemade Tweeters
Unused:
DBX bookshelfs
Panasonic RA-6600
Denon PMA-520
Fisher cr-113
Yamaha kx-w232
Lafayette LA-324A
Lafayette LR-100
Also here is the pics for THuffman ;D ;D ;D
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You have a nice collection! Its a good start
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Thanks cbgood.
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Nice collection for a kid.
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Thanks dad. :)
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I forgot I also have a Apex AD-1200 DVD player.
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Great Start ... and welcome to Audioholics Anonymous
:D
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Thanks rgpit.
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Great start Mikey!!! Keep it going!!!! 8) 8) 8)
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Thanks Kingman. I will. ;) ;)
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Very nice Mikey!
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Thanks THuffman. ;)
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Very nice Mikey! Lafayette gear was very good back in the '60's. I still have fond memories of the Lafayette Electronics store in the North Hills shopping center, just a short walk from Gimbels. Now I'm giving away my age! :'(
Congrats on the nice vintage gear!
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Hi Mikey,
How is that little Lafayette treating you? Did you ever hook it up?
Dale
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Thanks Dale and Carl. Yeah I have been playing around with it a bit. It came out really nice. It picks up just about every F.M station in Pittsburgh. I enjoy the little Lafayettes. ;D ;D ;D
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Also thanks for the deal Dale.
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Also me and my dad changed the power supply caps in it. It helped a lot. :D :D
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I Love It Mikey. Good For You. You Don't Have A Damn Thing To Be Ashamed Of. Actually, And For What It's Worth To You, I'm Quite Proud Of You.
You Remind Me Of Myself When I First Got Started In All Of This Audio Business. 8) ;)
Take Care Mikey and Happy Listening.-----Sincerely,BILL(BB3)
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Thanks BB3. I am happy people like it. It is fun to see peoples opinions of my collection. ;D ;D ;D
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Well.....You should be proud Mikey, and rightfully so my friend.
Oh shoot ! And I apologize for not noticing earlier, I see Tom(OCCD) has already got on "Double Secret Probation". hehehehe ;D
Congratulations Mikey.-------BILL
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Thanks' again BB3 yeah I just got up to double secret probation today. Also, do you like the ps3? I just got one for Christmas and I think it is awesome. :D :D :D :D :D
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Mikey, I really like it. Not that it's inexpensive, but for the money,
it's an extremely hard to beat BluRay Player,let alone all of its other
capabilities.
-----Bill
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I agree BB3. I do not have a blu-ray yet so I am just playing Mercenaries 2.
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Nice setup Mikey.
I'll be interested in hearing you comments on the PS3 in your system.
How old are you? That system #1 will be great in a college dorm or apartment type setup someday.
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Thanks Matt. I am 13 and believe it or not I actually had a better collection than this. But I got bored with it and traded it to my dad for some video game stuff. I am still regretting that decision. If you would like to see more about the PS3. you can go to this Video. It is a comparison between the PS3 and Xbox 360 but it shows all the hardware and The front and back. All I really know is that it has like 7 single core processors I think. Also it is one of the best sounding game systems around. I also have a Xbox 360 to and I think the PS3 is better. Also I know that the PS3 does have some problems that I hope not to run into. But if anything the Xbox 360 has a higher failure rate. But if you have a PS3 and play games on it if you like to blow stuff to kingdom come you should get Mercenaries 2: World and Flames. Me and my dad(Falcon377) always play that game. It is one of our favorite games every. Also I know I am getting a little off of what I started with and I am sorry. Also, The one in this video is not the same as my PS3 because mine is black and kind of a matte finish on top and this one is glossy. Another thing is that the PS3 in the video has a master switch and mine does not. Another thing is mine is the 120 GB his is the 40, 60, or 80 GB. But all I really know is that it is awesome. Here is the video. Playstation 3 Vs. Xbox 360: Rounds 2 & 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_gGAHYBKT4#ws) .
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Here is the actually video I was thinking of. :-[ It is a pretty long video but is very fun to watch. Xbox 360 Vs. PS3: Round 4 (CPU) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmHY_VnuDdE#ws)
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I'll have to watch it from home tonight (can't view it at work). thanks for the info. I've got the 360 myself, but I've always wondered about the PS3. I don't really 'game' that much. Just basically use it for playing Rock Band or something occasionally. I would like to have a Blue-Ray player though.
You've got a lot of good stuff for a 13 year old! My collection of audio gear at 13 consisted of a sony boombox and the KLH Sub that I still have, so I'd say you're doing alright!
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Thanks Matt. I would recommend it. I really enjoy my PS3. Although I still have not watched Blu-Rays it is supposed to look really good. Also All of the games I think is blu-ray.
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Mikey, You really have to do yourself a favor and watch something on BluRay. It's really at a whole other level comapred to the DVD standard. Just Beautiful.
Besides the picture quality, which is already above reproach, it's the sound quality that really gets me. It's also at a whole other level.
Get ready Gents. BluRay is or will become the new audio standard.----BILL
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okay BB3 I will try to get a blu-ray but I am trying to find one that the whole family can watch and enjoy.
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Bluray schmooray. I am still mad that DVDA & sacd are getting no support or are already dead. As an early adopter of both, I feel a bit abused by the big corporations.
That being said has anybody bought any of the universal bluray players? I guess I will eventually have to break down and spend more hard earned cash enriching corps with little consiceration for the consumer.
IS THERE NO ROOM IN THE WORLD FOR A HIGH RESOLUTION VIDEOLESS AUDIO FORMAT!?
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Good question Dale.
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Bluray schmooray. I am still mad that DVDA & sacd are getting no support or are already dead. As an early adopter of both, I feel a bit abused by the big corporations.
That being said has anybody bought any of the universal bluray players? I guess I will eventually have to break down and spend more hard earned cash enriching corps with little consiceration for the consumer.
IS THERE NO ROOM IN THE WORLD FOR A HIGH RESOLUTION VIDEOLESS AUDIO FORMAT!?
I'm with you Dale and totally understand the frustration. The BluRay format will end up being us Audiophile types savior I predict. Its just astonishing with the amount of information it will hold.
Here's an example...As much as I love the sound of Dave Gilmours Live In Gdansk CD, just imagine it sounding 5 times or so better with the BluRay version that is also available now and you can watch the concert as well , if you so desire.
I will be reporting to everyone here with my findings, just as soon as I get all of equipment setup. :-[ :-[
----BILL(BB3)
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I have heard great things about the Bluray sound quality, but have yet to have a chance for direct comparison. Still I wonder if anyone will ever put out audio only bluray. I don't always want the eye candy, and what happens to studio recordings? Will we be doomed to watching these artist in padded rooms (maybe where many belong, LOL) with a mike blocking their face.
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I've only ever seen movies in blue-ray, and never with the new HD audio codecs. But even with my old HT Reciever, playing regular DTS, the sound quality of the blue-ray was WAY cleaner than the same DTS track on a DVD
And that's with both the BD and the DVD being played at the same time, switching back and forth between them with your eyes closes... it's very noticable. I can only imagine the improvement of having a reciever that will decode the newest master audio and DD HD codecs.
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It's Going To Be Incredible Gentlemen. I Can't Wait.......BILL
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Paden501,
Now I am confused again! If you are listening to the DD or DTS soundtracks, I am not sure why they would sound better on bluray. Is your player decoding the high rez soundtracks and are you listening via the analog outputs? Or, do to extra space are they putting more bits into DD and DTS tracks?
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Confused,
I wasn't decoding the hi res. The BD player I had borrowed only would output digital audio via HDMI or via TOSLINK. Not having HDMI on my reciever, I connected via the optical TOSLINK cable. It was definately running the DTS track.
I'm not sure if the extra space available on the BD allows the DTS and DD tracks to be put on disk at better quality or what else it could have been. I was comparing a borrowed Sony BD player vs. my XBox360 as a DVD player.
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Jeez Paden501,
Bits is bits, some say. The sound should not be that much different. Though I have heard that DTS (the reason Sony put it on their high end DVD releases whose name escapes me) can be encoded at multiple bit rates, so maybe there is more bits on Bluray.
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Jeez Paden501,
Bits is bits, some say. The sound should not be that much different. Though I have heard that DTS (the reason Sony put it on their high end DVD releases whose name escapes me) can be encoded at multiple bit rates, so maybe there is more bits on Bluray.
There are varying levels of DTS quality; the highest level at this time being DTS-HD Master.
Your DVD case may provide detail about the formats of audio encoding on disc.
Check out this link to the DTS Formats (http://www.dts.com/DTS_Audio_Formats/DTS_Audio_Formats.aspx)
As for bits, more is better but there is a point where the difference cannot be
detected by human ears. High quality consumer recordings today are available in
24 bits, but Master recordings use even greater bits. In addition to bits, there is the sampling rate
which is how often the audio signal is analyzed and recorded.
Fwiw, yes, SACD is 1 bit encoding but it is a completely different technology that would derail
the discussion.
I've included a
Link to wikipedia on Pulse Code Modulation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation) as well as an excerpt from the doc:
Pulse-code modulation (PCM) is a digital representation of an analog signal where the magnitude of the signal is sampled regularly at uniform intervals, then quantized to a series of symbols in a numeric (usually binary) code. PCM has been used in digital telephone systems and 1980s-era electronic musical keyboards. It is also the standard form for digital audio in computers and the compact disc "red book" format. It is also standard in digital video, for example, using ITU-R BT.601. Uncompressed PCM is not typically used for video in standard definition consumer applications such as DVD or DVR because the bit rate required is far too high.
(http://vintagehifipgh.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=261.0;attach=309;image)
Modulation
In the diagram, a sine wave (red curve) is sampled and quantized for PCM. The sine wave is sampled at regular intervals, shown as ticks on the x-axis. For each sample, one of the available values (ticks on the y-axis) is chosen by some algorithm (in this case, the floor function is used). This produces a fully discrete representation of the input signal (shaded area) that can be easily encoded as digital data for storage or manipulation. For the sine wave example at right, we can verify that the quantized values at the sampling moments are 7, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14, 15, 15, 15, 14, etc. Encoding these values as binary numbers would result in the following set of nibbles: 0111, 1001, 1011, 1100, 1101, 1110, 1110, 1111, 1111, 1111, 1110, etc. These digital values could then be further processed or analyzed by a purpose-specific digital signal processor or general purpose CPU. Several Pulse Code Modulation streams could also be multiplexed into a larger aggregate data stream, generally for transmission of multiple streams over a single physical link. This technique is called time-division multiplexing, or TDM, and is widely used, notably in the modern public telephone system.
There are many ways to implement a real device that performs this task. In real systems, such a device is commonly implemented on a single integrated circuit that lacks only the clock necessary for sampling, and is generally referred to as an ADC (Analog-to-Digital converter). These devices will produce on their output a binary representation of the input whenever they are triggered by a clock signal, which would then be read by a processor of some sort.
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Actually I was referring to the original DTS CODEC. DTS-Master is brand new andit is not backwards compatible with the original DTS format. The 96-24 format was backwards compatible I believe, but only improved the sound if your AVR could decode.
PCM vs PWM-Both great formats, but when Sony released PWM recording (single bit), much of the audio world thought their motives may have been more about making files to big to download and not sonic improvement!
The main advantage to PWM was Linearity at low-levels-Improvement in standard ladder DACs have made that point moot as iI understand it.
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Agreed; If you have the vanilla DTS encoding on DVD and the same encoding on BluRay,
like for like encoding on differing media should have no impact on sound quality.
I would imagine that these days BluRay discs are offering the higher quality audio
signals to match the quality of the Video offered.
One other comment. I want proprietary digital media to go away! I'd much rather download
my music / video or buy it on a solid state media like a thumbdrive.
I want to load it onto my media server and do with it what I wish!
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Good luck Master-Blaster! I don't think the "owners" of the media will give it up without a revolution!
Also despite the space, I still prefer physical media. If my harddrive dies, I can fill it up again, or just put on an ancient record/cd which draws much less power than my computer when reproducing a signal at low levels.
Lastly, I have had my ups and downs financially, and until WWW is free and universal even in a proprietary free world will cost you monthly.
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Mikey, the Genie is already out of the bottle. I believe the Corporate machine doesn't care how the media is delivered as long as it can be controlled. They have been struggling with DRM for a while now, and as soon as they figure out how to preserve their revenue stream media access will be ubiquitous.
Physical media historically has been the delivery mechanism
because the tech wasn't there, and there was paranoia about theft/piracy.
We are already seeing it trending in that direction; mp3 downloads, "digital copy" downloads of dvd's, Netflix online, etc.
The internet will be the source for all media. Cable TV as we know it will also be a thing of the past.
As for backups, all of your digital property does not necessarily need to be in your posession.
It could all be saved to the internet "Cloud" for your retrieval at any time.
As for data loss, many online companies provide "unlimited" backup for like $5 a month.
It would not surprise me if you start to see these type of backup services included as part of your internet package.
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You have a great point- to quote a great man-"the times they are a'changing"
I still like physical media! I can read a book or the cover of a cd or lp without anything but some light. When all media is digital, if access to that stream ever becomes controlled. so will we. There are many ways to control it including pricing it out of reach. My connection costs me about 45/MO, if it was raised to 1000, not only me but many would not have access. If all books are online, we have lost something.
Also, until we give up centralized power distribution, all they have to is turn off the power.
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I agree Dale, there is something about having the recording in your hands, loading it into your player, leafing through the cover art and other material while listening for the first time.
I think audio manufacturers are acknowledging the shift; DACs are beginning to including USB interfaces as a standard option.
Maybe that deilvery method won't totally die, but I am afraid it will.
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I really think thaty covers, etc, are part of what keeping LPs alive.
Examples that do not work well with CD include
Stand Up Tull - Characters perforated and stand up
Grunt JA- folding stash box
Styx water fall cover
And many others!
Where will big bamboo paper fit Today?
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New speakers. I sold my Boston Acoustic A-200 and bought a pair of KEF C-40s from my dad. ;D ;D ;D They sound amazingly good with the Mitsubishi Amp, and my new JBL 136 sub. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Oh and here is a pic. Sorry it is not very great.
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Excellent speakers Mikey :o
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Excellent speakers Mikey :o
Thanks dad I really enjoy them. ;D ;D ;D I might hook the KEFs and the sub up to the Lafayette Lr-100 or the Lafayette la-324a. Which one do you think would sound better with the KEFs? ??? ??? ???
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The LR-100
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The LR-100
Dad I hooked the LR-100 up and it sounds awesome. ;) ;) ;)