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Title: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on March 18, 2014, 10:29:34 PM
Thank you Tom and Rev for your help transporting and setting them up.  Will report more as time rolls on and I break even the ribbons and fine tume toe in etc. 

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Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: Reverend on March 18, 2014, 10:35:29 PM
Do you have the power on?

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy313/RevAmish/photo1_zpsf3b0a785.jpg)
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: schwarcw on March 18, 2014, 11:46:53 PM
Looking good Pepe!  Good luck with the new Carver Plats!
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: SunnyDaze on March 18, 2014, 11:56:52 PM
I wanna hear them.
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: Kingman on March 19, 2014, 04:29:02 AM
Looking forward to your review. Enjoy the music!!!
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: MacGeek on March 19, 2014, 07:47:03 AM
I want to voice the room, then hear them:)
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: bmwr75 on March 19, 2014, 08:12:44 AM
I would like to hear them after that too.
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on March 19, 2014, 10:05:08 AM
Thanks all. I need to work on improving how the woofs are coupled with the baffles because there is some vibration there, but looks to be an easy fix.  The ribbons sound fantastic to me.    We connected them first with the Onkyo  driving the ribbons and the Aragon the woofs.  Sounded good but not enough power.  We then connected the Sunfire 400x5 and they woke up (800 watts [4 ohm] times 4 will wake up any speaker).  I need to work on better cables [outsourced some of that to River Current in Bethel] and any additional camber, tilt, etc. adjustments.


The Infinitys arrived at their new home in New York,  a church being restored as a house.  I hope to go visit with them the next time I pass by NY:

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Will keep you all posted and write review-like comments as I gain experience with them.

Pepe
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: geoffr on March 19, 2014, 10:38:41 AM
Now THAT's a bedroom system!
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: OCCD on March 19, 2014, 12:32:54 PM
I wonder why there are pews in the bedroom. lol  where are the cameras.
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on March 19, 2014, 02:59:06 PM
Cuz they turned the church into their house.   The acoustics should be good!   
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: MacGeek on March 19, 2014, 07:28:51 PM
There is a bed, but maybe it's not a bedroom.
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: bearjew on March 19, 2014, 07:36:07 PM
those plats would sound GREAT with some 305's
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: SunnyDaze on March 19, 2014, 10:37:16 PM
I don't know about the 305's, but, The last set I heard were paired with a Lightstar at the old shop. The impact and dynamics were pretty damn stellar.

Lightstar(s), Pepe. That's what you need now. 
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: Reverend on March 19, 2014, 10:42:20 PM
Nope, he needs a set of 700's.   >:D
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: schwarcw on March 19, 2014, 11:23:00 PM
Pepe!

Have you added some weight like sandbags or heavy blocks to the base to hold the flimsy frame steady and anchored down?
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: F1nut on March 20, 2014, 02:14:24 AM
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   Sounded good but not enough power.  We then connected the Sunfire 400x5 and they woke up (800 watts [4 ohm] times 4 will wake up any speaker).   

The Plats are 8 ohm.

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Have you added some weight like sandbags or heavy blocks to the base to hold the flimsy frame steady and anchored down? 

Yep, that helps a lot. Before you do, make sure the screws holding the bottom plate to the panel are tight. I actually increased the screw size for better holding power.



Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on March 20, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
@F1 - we removed the original Plat x-over from the the circuit.  An active cross-over is handling the frequency split.  As I understand,  the load the amps are seeing is now 4 ohms - that is what the experts tell me.   Do you know different?
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: Reverend on March 20, 2014, 11:01:28 AM
He's assuming they are stock.  Your's are 4ohm.
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: OCCD on March 20, 2014, 12:58:30 PM
These have no factory x overs connected up. 
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: schwarcw on March 20, 2014, 08:32:49 PM
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Yep, that helps a lot. Before you do, make sure the screws holding the bottom plate to the panel are tight. I actually increased the screw size for better holding power.

Listen to what your uncle Jesse says.  Bo and Luke are driving over there now in the 'ole General Lee!
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: Reverend on March 20, 2014, 08:59:49 PM
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Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on March 20, 2014, 09:00:33 PM
The sand bags and titanium brace with heavy duty screws advice from Dr. Jesse will not be ignored.  A flight plan for a trip to Ace Hardware has already been filed w FAA for Saturday to secure the materials. I may replace the sand bag idea with weights from my seldom-used free-weight set.  The baffle definitely flexes too much as-is if you touch the top of the speakers.  Four woofers trying to move the air in front of them in an open-baffle design generate enough thrust to benefit from better bracing.  The bass is tight as-is, however,  in defense of uncle Bob's design.

 :P

PS:  Rev - You rule.  I would be an idiot not to buy those.
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: schwarcw on March 20, 2014, 10:08:32 PM
Iron plates work well!  The more the better!
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: F1nut on March 21, 2014, 12:56:00 AM
@F1 - we removed the original Plat x-over from the the circuit.  An active cross-over is handling the frequency split.  As I understand,  the load the amps are seeing is now 4 ohms - that is what the experts tell me.   Do you know different?

Ah, I didn't know you are using active crossovers. Carry on.
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: OCCD on March 21, 2014, 11:56:35 AM
bags of lead shot also work well
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: BB3 on March 21, 2014, 12:22:36 PM
Absolutely fantastic Pepe. Way to go Sir. I'm impressed to say the least.--------Bill
Title: Re: The Carver Amazing Plats are in the House
Post by: Rockman Rock on March 28, 2014, 01:54:32 PM
I always felt Plat's needed struts from the base to 3/4 way up on the panels. Like moly tubing with Heim joints. :) Very nice Pepe! I had some Silvers once upon a time. High marks on the active.