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General Banter => The Circular File => Topic started by: Reverend on September 22, 2010, 10:25:29 AM

Title: New vs. Old School
Post by: Reverend on September 22, 2010, 10:25:29 AM
This came out of a drunken conversation the other night with a friend of mine.  Of course there are multiple variables here like what type of equipment it is, brands, significance of the vintage piece, etc so it's not really a cut and dry question.  You'd also have to take into account that money is no option.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: Falcon on September 22, 2010, 12:46:40 PM
I had to vote New, since money is not a problem.  But, you would have to spend alot.
   I am thinking about 50k to buy the system I want...
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: FrankieD on September 22, 2010, 01:48:56 PM
I would have to say New also.

I have a ton of "vintage" Carver gear & I love it. I am still amazed by my M400t's (the most underrated amps) & my M500t sounds great but my Sunfire is simply unbelievable..a bottomless pit of clean power....and it never gets even warm.

Really old stuff is cool like old cars but like cars the tech improvements are really there.

My 71 240Z would cruise at 100 mph with no trouble but you knew you were going really fast. My Infiniti feels the same at 100 as it does at 65 mph.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: thuffman03 on September 22, 2010, 01:56:07 PM
I voted new because of the unlimited money factor of the question.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: Falcon on September 22, 2010, 02:17:09 PM

My 71 240Z would cruise at 100 mph with no trouble but you knew you were going really fast. My Infiniti feels the same at 100 as it does at 65 mph.


Same as my Lexus, 120mph feels like 65mph.  I love that car.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: Reverend on September 22, 2010, 02:26:58 PM
My 71 240Z would cruise at 100 mph with no trouble but you knew you were going really fast. My Infiniti feels the same at 100 as it does at 65 mph.

I can relate!  My best friend in high school had a '73 240z we restored and I own an Infiniti too.  Still, if I had the choice between a Shelby Cobra and a brand new Ferrari, I'd take the Cobra.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: icravcarver on September 22, 2010, 02:48:55 PM
Due to the newer technologies, I would say new.  However, some of that older stuff was built like a tank, and could be repaired, when, and more importantly, if it broke!  I do prefer some of the older looks of the gear, but with the newer materials available and techniques used, some of the new stuff looks purty!!!

Neil

PS - back to work I go.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: Colinbgood on September 22, 2010, 07:35:18 PM
I would prefer old stuff, but new speakers. If money was no object, I would buy silver 7's and fly Bob Carver up to set them up.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: OCCD on September 22, 2010, 08:21:28 PM
Do I really need to answer this question?????? :o :o :o :o :o ;)
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: Kingman on September 22, 2010, 08:49:40 PM
I've got no new shit so I guess I'm stuck in the past...and with Carver that ain't a bad place to be!!!! 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: BB3 on September 23, 2010, 12:55:18 PM
I'm sorry, but I simply cannot decide.... :-\ So........it's old and new for me Gentlemen. ;D

Yours Truly, BILL(BB3)
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: Bill Cain on November 20, 2010, 02:54:27 PM
For me, there are no hard and fast rules for home gear.  It's a real mixture of Old and New.
To me, to slavishly adhere to either Old or New School is a limiting factor without benefit.
 :o
When it comes to DJ gear, I demand Highest Fidelity with Bulletproof Reliability.
Again, whatever works best is my solution.  Too much is never enough.
 ;D
Your mileage may vary......
Bill Cain


Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: bmwr75 on November 20, 2010, 06:39:22 PM
New....remote controls are neat.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: sk1335 on November 21, 2010, 06:30:04 AM
For me it would be old.
After all the name of the store, and the club is "Vintage"
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: MasterBlaster on November 21, 2010, 09:56:10 AM
I consider new tube gear "vintage" from a tech perspective.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: OCCD on November 21, 2010, 10:02:14 AM
Go old, save the depreciation. You can buy that fancy new piece for 1/3 the cost down the road and not lose your ass on it.  The question should really be... You have $15k of cash to buy a new stereo system. Do you buy new or old... Hmmm...what would I buy with 15K and am I limited to only one system?
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: Slim-Shaddy on November 21, 2010, 11:04:02 AM
What makes old gear old? If you just mean pre-owned, then I'll go old. If you mean 30 years old, I'll go new.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: SunnyDaze on November 21, 2010, 12:02:32 PM
My 71 240Z would cruise at 100 mph with no trouble but you knew you were going really fast. My Infiniti feels the same at 100 as it does at 65 mph.

I can relate!  My best friend in high school had a '73 240z we restored and I own an Infiniti too.  Still, if I had the choice between a Shelby Cobra and a brand new Ferrari, I'd take the Cobra.

Have you ever been in an AC Ace / Shelby Cobra before Rev? No offense, but I doubt you'd fit. For that matter, I doubt, Tom, Lerch, or Dave would even fit. Ed and Pepe would have to drive the damn thing all around. We built one for a guy from a Factor Five kit about a decade ago, they're shoeboxes on wheels.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: SunnyDaze on November 21, 2010, 12:14:56 PM
Well, the average age of my components sans headphones, interconnects, cabling, and the rack itself is 1988 and 7 months with the newest being 2010 and the oldest being 1974. I guess that makes my system middle school.

I will say this, most of the newer components that I've owned sound better than the older components that are of similar quality.

 
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: OCCD on November 21, 2010, 02:46:06 PM
My newest component is 5 years old. My oldest component is 43 years old.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: sk1335 on November 21, 2010, 04:17:40 PM
I don't know how we got on to cars - but I guess I'll chime in for the Audi contingent.
My allroad will do 150mph all day long, and it feels like you're sitting in your living room easy boy.
Title: Re: New vs. Old School
Post by: Falcon on November 21, 2010, 07:47:29 PM
OLD SCHOOL.... HI-END OLD SCHOOL. 8) 8) 8)

McIntosh, Krell, Mccormack, Snell's, Levinson, Boulder... You can get this stuff now for a small fraction of what it cost new. Let the filthy rich, with money to waste buy it new. I will pick it up a few years down the road for a few bucks.. :o  Just look on Audiogon, people paying $50,000 for a pair of speakers, that you can buy 10 years later $1,000 and they sound just as good...

  Same goes with cars for me, I would rather buy a hi-end used car then a new Cavalier....