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Title: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 29, 2011, 11:49:53 AM
Ok guys, I will be the first to admit I am fairly new to speakers.  I do, however, love great sound quality and typically can recognize it.  I am currently sporting a fairly entry level system in my bedroom: Pioneer Elite VSX 91 TXH reciever, Definitive Technology Celsius DR book shelves (x2), Definitive Technology C1, Polk Audio Monitor 50 (x2), and a HSU STF-1 subwoofer.  I have seen how much a difference a high quality subwoofer can make as I bought the Def Tech Supercube II from king for my father's speaker system.  I fully plan to upgrade to either a supercube myself, an HSU VTF3 MK 3, a sunfire of some sort, or an SVS of some sort (I am fully open to suggestions).  There is a deal I found for 2 Def Tech Pro Cinema 100 book shelves, 2 Pro Cinema 80s book shelves, a Def Tech C2 center channel, and a Marantz SR 7200 receiver.  I am fairly certain that my receiver is nicer, but I am not sure about the speakers.  The speakers also come with monster cable and are priced at $200.  The issue is I would drive 4 hours to see them and audition them.  Are these speakers better than what I am currently using?  Is this $200 deal something I should utilize?  I am a college student and do not have a ton of cash... =(
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: SunnyDaze on July 29, 2011, 11:52:56 AM
This may or may not be up your alley, but...

...have you considered purchasing a good set of headphones? For under $100, you can obtain sound that is simply mind blowing. If you're interested in taking this route, my parents live near Uniontown. When I'm out that way, I can meet you if you'd like to hear what I've got in terms of headphones.
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: thuffman03 on July 29, 2011, 11:56:33 AM
Go and buy them.

The 100's will fetch $200 on ebay
The 80's will fetch $150
The C2 center will fetch about $100

Not sure what the receiver is worth, but you can sell some and have free speakers for a few hour drive.  Driving to get audio equipment is nothing new for some of us.  I have gone to Chicago to pick up a system.
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 29, 2011, 12:02:38 PM
OK, will do, thanks for the recommendation.
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 29, 2011, 12:11:13 PM
Also I would love to see a nice pair of headphones.  I had a pair of BOSE ear buds that I got from Circuit City when they went under for like $20 but the cable to them is piss poor.  Tell me when you head into Uniontown or I can tell you the next I head into Pittsburgh; I go up a fair amount. 
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: SunnyDaze on July 29, 2011, 01:57:01 PM
BOSE = Buy Other Sound Equipment

You can spend $25 on a set of Koss Porta Pros and get exponentially better sound than you would with any of the BOSE cans.

If you'll be going to any upcoming meetings at the shop, that may be the best time / place to do it. There's plenty of proper amplification there for most headphones.
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 29, 2011, 02:04:16 PM
Yeah, my experience with Bose = they are not very good at all.  Where does it list when the meetings are held?
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: thuffman03 on July 29, 2011, 02:43:55 PM
Yeah, my experience with Bose = they are not very good at all.  Where does it list when the meetings are held?

The dates are usually posted here:  http://vintagehifipgh.com/forum/index.php?board=14.0 (http://vintagehifipgh.com/forum/index.php?board=14.0)
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 29, 2011, 02:53:05 PM
Awesome, thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: MasterBlaster on July 29, 2011, 08:42:47 PM
Tom never updates that anymore
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 30, 2011, 12:54:39 AM
Well, I think I am going to drop about $400 tomorrow in Annapolis.  $200 on an SVS 16-46 PC-Plus and $200 on the Marantz Sr 7200, 2 def tech pro monitor 80, and 2 def tech pro monitor 100.  Time to sell my HSU STF-1, my polk montiro 50s, that marantz as soon as I get it and which ever def techs I decide to sell.  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: MasterBlaster on July 30, 2011, 02:18:38 AM
+1 on SVS. I bought a PB-12 from Carl here in the burgh a while ago and it is one hell of a sub.
http://vintagehifipgh.com/forum/index.php?topic=554.0 (http://vintagehifipgh.com/forum/index.php?topic=554.0)

If you decide that don't want it, please post the offer here.  O0


Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 30, 2011, 02:31:23 AM
Haha, will do!  I am actually kind of low on cash so the fact that I can resell it here if I can't keep it is pretty nice.  Hopefully people will buy my other stuff and I won't be as poor afterwards!  :P :P
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on July 30, 2011, 10:03:30 AM
Sunny - remind me again - what is your headphone recommendation for under $100?  I am on standby waiting for the right set of Stax to show up on the web used (not electret,  per you),  as Tom (and you) have said those are the creme de la creme.

Steve - Get a Sunfire Truesub - the last sub you will need.
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: SunnyDaze on July 30, 2011, 10:11:05 AM
You don't have to take my word for it Pepe. I'll bring the Stax to the next meeting that I attend. We'll hook them up to the Bob Amps and you can melt away for an hour or so. No, I won't sell them afterward.  ;D  ;D

Electrets are a no no.

Overall, I'd say the best bang for your buck under $100 are the Grado SR60's at $80. Scott and I spent one Sunday listening to cans (I need to write a review of this). We listened to his Audeze LCD 2's, my Stax SR 5's, Beyerdynamic 880's and 990's, Grado SR325is's, and I'm sure a few more. At the end of the day, the SR60's on vintage Akai tube gear really shined. For $80, you get a set of headphones that are directly comparable to some of the world's finest.
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: MasterBlaster on July 30, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
Pepe, That SVS will eat the Truesub for lunch.

I will bring mine to the shop for a while if Tom ever clears enough room.
It is the size of a dorm refrigerator and that's alot of real-estate when it comes to free space at the shop :P
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 30, 2011, 04:41:59 PM
So the guy raised his price on that SVS PC 16-46 PC-Plus Sub to $300 saying the following,

"I'm unable to talk via phone that's why I sent an email to you earlier. I have had several inquiries besides yours and after further research I have decided that I can not let this go for $200. The new price is $300 which is fair and is not negotiable. No, I don't have a box. The original box was as big as a refrigerator. I will be home all day tomorrow if you still have further interest. Thx. John"

and

"Lots of inquiries. Someone wanted to come at 8AM this morning. Checking different audio forums a few sold as high as $600 early last year. I'm not trying to be greedy. The piece is in excellent shape 10/10 and has maybe 60 hours of use. I will hold off on any other inquiries for a few days so you can see about the funds. I do not have a box."

It will cost me $100 in gas to get there... Should I still go for this?  $400 is a decent sum of money but the thing new from the site would be $850... I don't know how likely I am to find a sub as good for the same price.  Opinions?  Anyone have something comparable that they feel like selling for the same price?  :P
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on July 30, 2011, 07:00:45 PM
MB:  Will wait until I hear one to agree or disagree with you,  but the size of the sub is already a turn-off!   The little True sub is so inconspicuous.  And fast.  :P

Steve - be careful - the seller sounds like a handful.  you may drive over there and it may be gone.   :o
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 30, 2011, 09:59:20 PM
That would suck a lot.  One of the other guys misinterpreted something, I do have his phone number at least. I would call him before leaving and make an organized time to meet.  It is a huge sub and I would much rather have a smaller sub that performs just as well.  Sadly, I don't know if I am going to find such a sub.  My current sub is boomy and thus I am looking to replace it.  Maybe I should just hold off.
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 30, 2011, 10:06:37 PM
Mainly waiting to see if I can sell my current, an HSU STF-1
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: StephenWVU on July 30, 2011, 10:23:20 PM
I saw a few things on craigslist.  At first I saw this and didn't see it was broken, almost jumped for joy but it's broken...   :-[ 
Title: Re: Maybe an upgrade?
Post by: MacGeek on July 31, 2011, 07:38:51 PM
BOSE-never heard the "buy other sound equipment", always thought it stood for Big Ordinary Sound Everywhere.  But, if it sounds good to you..............