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Title: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on October 27, 2013, 08:56:50 PM
Hello team...

I know this may have been discussed before but being Mexican I am naturally lazy.  The question at hand is this:  what is the best DAC to get for under $300? 

My top pick so far is a 1993 PS Audio Superlink like Rev's.  That box is older than dirt but sounds amazing - kind of like the Phillips CD-80.  That said,  I tend to believe the theory that newer DACs should sound better, and be able to handle higher res files of course.  So I guess that is the question - what is the best used DAC for under $300,  preferably one that can handle high-res files?

The DACMagic 100 is winning the race right now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cambridge-Audio-DacMagic-100-Digital-Audio-Converter-Black-/140980383783?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d315f027 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cambridge-Audio-DacMagic-100-Digital-Audio-Converter-Black-/140980383783?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d315f027)
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on October 27, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
Yep, like synths, DACs are something that new really trumps vintage.   I'll say it again, just get a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 USB for $150 and be done with it.   ADC and DAC in one unit and much better than any "audiophile" box I've heard under a grand.
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on November 09, 2013, 04:50:12 PM
Testing the Cambridge Dacmagic 100.  Sounds good,  not spectacular.  May look at Mark's recommendation next  (for half the price of the Dacmagic)
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on November 09, 2013, 05:03:38 PM
I'll be curious to see what you think.
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on November 09, 2013, 05:41:04 PM
And the DACMagic is only DAC, not ADC.   If you decide to digitize any of your tapes or LPs you will need an additional converter.
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on November 09, 2013, 05:42:12 PM
Oh, and if you pick it up at Guitar Center, I think they have 30 day satisfaction with receipt (but check to be sure).
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on November 09, 2013, 07:06:39 PM
Mark, tape people like me only go in one direction.  The ADC part is anathema to me.  Why ruin a good thing? 

 ;D
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on November 09, 2013, 09:41:14 PM
Again, I'm sorry I forgot to give you the DVD of my drops.   You will understand.
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on November 09, 2013, 09:52:18 PM
The Cambridge Dacmagic 100 gives the CD-80 a run for its money.  I hear more detail.
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on November 11, 2013, 09:38:58 PM
One advantage of the Infinity RS1bs:  they helped me discover that the Phillips CD80 DAC kicks the butt of the Cambridge Audio DACMagic 100.  So today the Cambridge went back for a return of my funds.  Simultaneously I ordered the Focusrite recommended by Thrifty.  Will report on that during the weekend. 

The net is:  what the hell did the Phillips/Marantz engineers do to get it so right in the Phillips DAC back in 1992? It it is limited to redbook stuff, so no high def music out of there - but what a kick-ass CD player that is!   The Oppo DVDplayer was not far behind, and also bettered the Cambridge (this is all subjective to a degree, of course).

Cheers,

Pepe
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: MacGeek on November 11, 2013, 10:19:09 PM
Significant pieces of new gear are always fun.  You get to listen to everything all over again (and then start upgrading the rest of the system).
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on November 11, 2013, 10:31:19 PM
I love my Oppo 970, but I like my E-Mu card even better.   I really look forward to hearing your impressions of the Focusrite.
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on November 16, 2013, 05:52:22 PM
Have been testing the Focusrite for several hours.  Sounds very good on my system. Better than the Cambridge certainly.  Downsides include no coax or optical in, just USB 2.0.  Also needs 1/4 to RCS adapters to talk to home audio eq. Upsides:  Great headphone amp to monitor digital,  and an ADC to record analog stuff.  Have not tested the latter.  Do not see a reason not to keep it.

 O0
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on November 16, 2013, 09:40:44 PM
Glad you like it.
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on November 17, 2013, 11:09:42 PM
Did any of your visitors comment on the Focusrite?
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: OldiesButGoodies on November 18, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
No art critics peed on it (you know we have a few of those - have you met Prof. Elijah?)  I now have 2 more 1/4 jacks to test recording on it.  But it sounded better than the Cambridge - that is for sure.
Title: Re: Best (used?) DAC for $300 or less
Post by: Sir Thrift-a-Lot on November 18, 2013, 10:20:59 PM
I haven't steered you wrong yet.