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Audio Discussion => List your system => Topic started by: OldiesButGoodies on June 07, 2014, 04:34:20 PM
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Scored a Magnavox (Phillips) CD 2000 today at the flea market. Works great. Ready to start making upgrades and see it it competes with the Phillips CD-80.
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Uses the Phillips TDA 1543 DAC (not as cool as the 1541 but a close relative and a well regarded DAC - some prefer it to the 1541). Notice the copper-plated PCB.
First step will be to recap it and then add decent RCA interconnects.
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Very nice, OBG. I hit several sales around Uniontown today.. empty handed once again!
Maybe the Philips will hit the market for real?
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Pepe, didn't you just sell you CD-80? Are you missing it already? :'(
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I was selling the CD-80, but then I played the Santana Supernatural CD on both the cd-80 and the Oppo, and the CD-80 won. So I decided to keep it. Will probably sell it of the Maganvox eventually though. ;)
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I never would have thought about the Magnavox - Phillips connection. I wonder if I passed on any of these at the thrift thinking they were BPC.
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I am glad you decided to keep the CD80. Here is my modified Magnavox CDP. Happy trails
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That's not real, is it?
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Nick -
Very nice - so you had the entire output section replaced with a tubed section? There is a lot of space in there to do things like that.
Pepe
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I did not build nor have this one built, its an early hand built Melos. He used an off the shelf Magnavox CDP. It uses an all tube output stage, external power supply and the 1543 DAC chip. One of my museum pieces, extremely rare.
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Call me Captain Obvious here but if the CD80 is the best thing you've heard, and you're itching to mod something, why not look into modding it? ???
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I should look into it. The things is built like a tank. Just tearing it apart seems like cracking a bank vault.
One plus of buying the Magnavox: it includes two Phillips mechanism red locking screws. So now I can sell the Phillips on Ebay >:D.
But you have a point. Will do more research on what can be done.
Mike (Flacon?): Can you clarify (if you know) what was done to mod this cd-80 before you sold it to me?
Thanks
P
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So OBG, how does one know if they got one of the good Magnavox CD players? I picked up one today that has the Pioneer type 6 disc cartridge changer. It also has the red locking things on the back. I haven't listened yet, but it did spin up and give track times in the store.
$5 at Goodwill. I never would have bought it if not for this thread. Even if it's not one of the good ones, for that price I can throw it into a give away system.
What do I look for inside? A particular chip in the DAC?
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Dear Stal:
The Maggie geniuses will soon weigh in and countermand what I write here, but the key traits are the TDA 1543 or (better) 1541. And the Phillips transport. In mine the DAC is kind of hidden by the transport mechanism.
Congrats on the find...
TGIF!!!!!
Pepe
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Okay, the unit is a Magnavox CDB-496. Because of the cartridge changer, this thing is far more cyphered together than I care to deal with. I did not find a TDA 1543 or 1541, but I didn't find anything I could positively ID as the DAC. I also can not say if it is a Philips transport (I was too afraid that if I took it apart it was never going back together again), but I can tell you that almost everything in it is labeled Philips.
What I did find in my Google search was this thread at AK about the CDB-492.
http://mail.audiokarma.net/forums/showthread.php?t=393811 (http://mail.audiokarma.net/forums/showthread.php?t=393811)
That unit sure looks like it would be the single disc version of what I have, so I would think there to be a certain likelihood that they would use the same chipset, but who knows. It has the 1543 and the Philips laser.
I think my plan is to put this in my next Pepe stash. If you can turn it into something wonderful, have at it. If not, we can put it in a give away system. At the very least, it sounds like the three red things in the back will be of use to you.
You know, I used to spend my Monday evenings doing normal things like playing with the kids or watching TV. Now I get screwdrivers, magnifying lenses and the internet and try to ID components. I am diseased and I blame all of you.
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And what a great disease it is. No Rx necessary.
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BTW, have any of you guys ever seen this page...
http://lampizator.eu/lampizator/CD_player_ranking.html (http://lampizator.eu/lampizator/CD_player_ranking.html)
I found it while Googling DAC chips and wondered what the experts here thought. Of course it is old info, but that's the only way I'll afford this stuff is to get it "well loved". I may have to print the list as a watch list for the thrifts. Too much to remember.
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Interesting write-up. I agree on the Sony family of players that he lists. Most of those units weigh over 30 lbs.
I would choose one of the Sony's over the Philips or the Maggies. Of course price is a bigger consideration.
There are no SACD players on his list for you high rez geeks!
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There are no SACD players on his list for you high rez geeks!
That's why my Oppo gets the nod. I'm not as much a high res geek as I am a surround sound geek.
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I've owned a handful of the Magnavox BPC (black plastic crap) CD players and enjoyed them very much, Waaaay under appreciated
For the few dollars at the thrift stores. I had two of 2000 model listed hear. Very open, detailed sound. Alas they all needed some repair
Or another and ultimately hit the recycle pile. I don't think any of them weighed more than 3 or 4 pounds....except the cd60....sold that one
Last year.
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There are no SACD players on his list for you high rez geeks!
That's why my Oppo gets the nod. I'm not as much a high res geek as I am a surround sound geek.
Oppo has some nice stuff. Their high end player (can't remember the model#) has the Buffalo Sabre 32 DAC which the guy list as the "Level 0" DAC. The top of his list. In his opinion. It is a very good DAC
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The 970 has a Cirrus Logic DAC. He doesn't make any statements on those pro or con. I like it, though.
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This is the chip on the 970...
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/cs4361.html (http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/cs4361.html)
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If all goes well, I'll be picking up a Maggotbox BCP CD player this week on the way to the Cleveland Clinic. :)