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Audio Discussion => TUBES TUBES TUBES => Topic started by: desperado915 on March 14, 2011, 05:20:22 PM

Title: Got Treasures?
Post by: desperado915 on March 14, 2011, 05:20:22 PM: I never thought very highly of Chinese tubes until I replaced a pair of Mullard 12AT7's in my tube preamp with a set of Shuguang Psvanes. I have since been very impressed with them. Then, I decided to try the Shuguang Treasure 6CA7's. These tubes sound VERY GOOD! Tight extended bass, deep and wide soundstage, crystal clear, defined highs and an absolutely BLACK background. They are so good that I am not sure if I ever want to roll anything else in there again. They replaced a quad of the Russian 6p3s-e that I liked. Both the Psvanes and the Treasures look great also. I got the Psvanes from Grant Fidelity and the Treasures from a vendor that the guys at the Tube Asylum strongly recommended. The vendor is here: http://www.goodcomponent.com/ (http://www.goodcomponent.com/)

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Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Zoot Horn on March 14, 2011, 05:36:28 PM: If you don't mind,, what grade and how much did the treasures cost you--thanks.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: BrianT on March 14, 2011, 06:10:19 PM: desperado915

They are a great tube, I have been using 12 x Shuguang Treasure KT88z's in my Cherry 180 mono blocks for over a year
I love this tube.

I am going to order the Psvanes 12AT7 and 12AX7 and replace the controller tubes in my amps, glad you like them.

Brian.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: desperado915 on March 14, 2011, 06:45:01 PM: Quote from: Zoot Horn on March 14, 2011, 05:36:28 PM
If you don't mind,, what grade and how much did the treasures cost you--thanks.

Top Grade A without the fancy schmancy case. Ordered from a guy named Clark in China. I believe I paid around $250 shipped.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Zoot Horn on March 14, 2011, 06:54:09 PM: thank you sir--I don't need the case either--I'm gonna go ahead and e-mail him/them for a quad--burn in time ?
Thanks--george
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: desperado915 on March 14, 2011, 08:05:43 PM: Quote from: Zoot Horn on March 14, 2011, 06:54:09 PM
thank you sir--I don't need the case either--I'm gonna go ahead and e-mail him/them for a quad--burn in time ?
Thanks--george

That was the price for a matched quad. I just looked at the invoice-total $253 shipped. They are still burning in (50 hours so far)...and getting better every day. I understand it takes around 300 hours to burn totally in.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: desperado915 on March 14, 2011, 08:07:00 PM: Quote from: BrianT on March 14, 2011, 06:10:19 PM

desperado915

They are a great tube, I have been using 12 x Shuguang Treasure KT88z's in my Cherry 180 mono blocks for over a year
I love this tube.

I am going to order the Psvanes 12AT7 and 12AX7 and replace the controller tubes in my amps, glad you like them.

Brian.

Dude, your system is awesome! I can only imagine what 12 KT88 Treasures cost you!
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Zoot Horn on March 14, 2011, 10:29:20 PM: Quote from: desperado915 on March 14, 2011, 08:05:43 PM
Quote from: Zoot Horn on March 14, 2011, 06:54:09 PM
thank you sir--I don't need the case either--I'm gonna go ahead and e-mail him/them for a quad--burn in time ?
Thanks--george

That was the price for a matched quad. I just looked at the invoice-total $253 shipped. They are still burning in (50 hours so far)...and getting better every day. I understand it takes around 300 hours to burn totally in.
thats what i heard to re; the burn ib--i fired off an e-mail--wait and see mode right now--thanks
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: F1nut on March 15, 2011, 12:56:13 AM: Those 6CA7-Z's are bad ass......after 300 hours.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: BrianT on March 15, 2011, 06:42:45 AM: Quote from: desperado915 on March 14, 2011, 08:07:00 PM

Dude, your system is awesome! I can only imagine what 12 KT88 Treasures cost you!

At the time I purchased them, they cost me $900.00us plus shipping and Canada customs import fees
so around $1200.00 landed cost.
I did not purchase them from Grant, I got them from another dealer in the US. In the last year the price has come down a lot.

They do take about 300hrs for burn in.

Yes I do like my system, but still play with tubes for my Pre Amp, I think I am going to order some 6922 from Carl.

Brian.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Zoot Horn on March 16, 2011, 07:24:35 AM: Just an FYI guys-- I received an e-mail last night,(from Clark,,, link listed in this thread),at the present,,they only have matched pairs available due to stock issues?
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: tube_dan on March 17, 2011, 11:39:33 AM: Good stuff, Desperado -- thanks! :thumbup
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Steve_Rynn on March 17, 2011, 01:21:32 PM: Quote from: Zoot Horn on March 16, 2011, 07:24:35 AM
Just an FYI guys-- I received an e-mail last night,(from Clark,,, link listed in this thread),at the present,,they only have matched pairs available due to stock issues?

FYI I emailed them about the speaker cables on the website and they said they are out of stock on those and not sure if they will be getting again from their supplier.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Zoot Horn on March 27, 2011, 02:00:14 PM: Got a quad on the way--IIRC it was 256.00 shipped to Jawga-.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Zoot Horn on March 28, 2011, 07:19:30 PM: Fast shipping
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Kingman on March 28, 2011, 07:32:56 PM: Those look SWEET Gawg!!!! 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: BrianT on March 29, 2011, 06:01:54 PM: Quote from: Zoot Horn on March 28, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
Fast shipping

George.

And if you remember, you listened to a set of treasures at CF10, that's what was in my Cherry Mono Blocks that you spent time listing to.

That was fast shipping, I still have a quad set "A Quality" on order from Grant Fidelity
They have the standard in stock, but not the grade "A"

They are not for me, they are for a buddy of mine. I did think about ordering from Clark
but with all the import duties and sales tax into Canada, we would have saved about $30.00
We ended up paying $380.00 cnd.

Brian
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Zoot Horn on March 29, 2011, 06:18:39 PM: I was just thinking about that this morning Brian,,I thought yours had the treasures in them,,,I got these about 4 days after payment,,surprisingly fast shipping.Good to hear from you--I'll see you in about 5.5 months--regards to you and your family--george
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: BrianT on March 30, 2011, 07:07:13 PM: Quote from: Zoot Horn on March 29, 2011, 06:18:39 PM
I was just thinking about that this morning Brian,,I thought yours had the treasures in them,,,I got these about 4 days after payment,,surprisingly fast shipping.Good to hear from you--I'll see you in about 5.5 months--regards to you and your family--george

Hope you enjoy your tubes, looking forward to seeing you again at CF11. Pat say's she will be sitting this one out, so it looks like I will be there on my own.

Where is that DGB from last year ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Zoot Horn on March 31, 2011, 02:11:31 AM: Noooo,, Pat made this really fantastic dish last year,,IIRC it was turnip or rutabega,, she will be missed.Not only for the food,but my wife thought that she (Pat) was great company,,can you get her to reconsider?:
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: BrianT on March 31, 2011, 06:57:33 PM: Quote from: Zoot Horn on March 31, 2011, 02:11:31 AM
Noooo,, Pat made this really fantastic dish last year,,IIRC it was turnip or rutabega,, she will be missed.Not only for the food,but my wife thought that she (Pat) was great company,,can you get her to reconsider?:

George.

I do not think that she will be there, I have asked here a few times and she keeps saying NO

If Pat comes, I will drive (from Canada 20 hrs) and bring some gear, If not I will fly
and only bring myself and a bottle of wine.

Brian.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Kingman on March 31, 2011, 07:48:09 PM: Damn Brian!!! Pat made that delicious turkey dish last year... Best meal I had the whole time!!!! Pat...reconsider... ;)
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: tinpan on April 17, 2011, 08:31:48 PM: Well, I think I will order a pair of the 300b Treasures.
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: Zoot Horn on April 21, 2011, 01:28:20 AM: do it 8)
Title: Re: Got Treasures?
Post by: tinpan on April 23, 2011, 11:50:48 AM: Should be here next week