Welcome Jazzman. Got any pics of your speaker builds?
Greetings! Is Mrs. Wilkes' still there? I ate there many times over the years, but have not been down recently.
Very cool web site. Do your design best Martin Logan's in the end?
Very impressive speakers, nicely done. While I love seeing DIY projects, I did NOT need to see "build a speaker on the kitchen table"! >:D That got wheels spinning in my head. Maybe someday, I have a feeling if I did a build like that there could be two dead curious cats in the house, the intervention would soon follow.
Very impressive speakers, nicely done. While I love seeing DIY projects, I did NOT need to see "build a speaker on the kitchen table"! >:D That got wheels spinning in my head. Maybe someday, I have a feeling if I did a build like that there could be two dead curious cats in the house, the intervention would soon follow.
My wife hates when I look at DIY stuff. I recently asked her if I could make a 7 foot tall subwoofer... You can probably guess what the response was.
Very impressive speakers, nicely done. While I love seeing DIY projects, I did NOT need to see "build a speaker on the kitchen table"! >:D That got wheels spinning in my head. Maybe someday, I have a feeling if I did a build like that there could be two dead curious cats in the house, the intervention would soon follow.
My wife hates when I look at DIY stuff. I recently asked her if I could make a 7 foot tall subwoofer... You can probably guess what the response was.
Is she strong enough to move a 7' sub? If so, you're screwed. If not, turn it up and you're good to go!
"What I can't do and ML can is design passive crossovers that work well enough to allow building non-bi amp'd hybrid ESL's that sound good. It's horrendously difficult to build a balanced hybrid ESL with passive components. And this you must be able to do if you wish to build ESL's cheaply enough to sell at a profit."
Jazzman - I would imagine designing that could be hellaciously complicated. On the other hand biamping does give the listener a bit more flexibility tailoring the sound to their taste. Do you find you lose resolution or add noise by going through the Behringer? In theory it is doing everything at 96/24 so that there should not be anything detectable, but what about noise from the inexpensive op amps in the active?
"Even if I knew how to design a passive crossovers for an ESL, I would use one in my personal speakers."
I assume you meant to insert a "not" after "I". :(|)
It is encouraging to hear positive feedback on the Behringer hardware. I am a fan of some of their equipment, but most audiophiles frown upon anything made by Behringer.
Thanks for the great site and the inspiring story on how you were motivated to learn how to build these. Very cool.
OBG
"Even if I knew how to design a passive crossovers for an ESL, I would use one in my personal speakers."
I assume you meant to insert a "not" after "I". :(|)
It is encouraging to hear positive feedback on the Behringer hardware. I am a fan of some of their equipment, but most audiophiles frown upon anything made by Behringer.
Thanks for the great site and the inspiring story on how you were motivated to learn how to build these. Very cool.
OBG
I think he meant he'd still use the DCX...
As for behringer... from a musician's standpoint, Behringer is utter garbage when it comes to guitar amps, mixers, and... well, pretty much anything in my experience. I do have one of their cheap-o compressor/limiter combos though that I used to use for watching TV when I was living with my brother and sister-in-law so I could watch movies late at night without waking them up. Can't say much for quality, since I intentionally bought it to make all of the sound the same volume and quiet, but it does what it's product description says.
"Even if I knew how to design a passive crossovers for an ESL, I would use one in my personal speakers."
I assume you meant to insert a "not" after "I". :(|)
It is encouraging to hear positive feedback on the Behringer hardware. I am a fan of some of their equipment, but most audiophiles frown upon anything made by Behringer.
Thanks for the great site and the inspiring story on how you were motivated to learn how to build these. Very cool.
OBG
I think he meant he'd still use the DCX...
As for behringer... from a musician's standpoint, Behringer is utter garbage when it comes to guitar amps, mixers, and... well, pretty much anything in my experience. I do have one of their cheap-o compressor/limiter combos though that I used to use for watching TV when I was living with my brother and sister-in-law so I could watch movies late at night without waking them up. Can't say much for quality, since I intentionally bought it to make all of the sound the same volume and quiet, but it does what it's product description says.
...and there we go, the local rep of the 'I-hate-Behringer' union weighed in.
BJ - understood, you have had multiple bad experiences with the B folks. Just propose we leave some space out there for the possibility that some of the eq they make may be ok. Like the active x-overs. 8)
"Even if I knew how to design a passive crossovers for an ESL, I would use one in my personal speakers."
I assume you meant to insert a "not" after "I". :(|)
It is encouraging to hear positive feedback on the Behringer hardware. I am a fan of some of their equipment, but most audiophiles frown upon anything made by Behringer.
Thanks for the great site and the inspiring story on how you were motivated to learn how to build these. Very cool.
OBG
I think he meant he'd still use the DCX...
It is encouraging to hear positive feedback on the Behringer hardware. I am a fan of some of their equipment, but most audiophiles frown upon anything made by Behringer.
Impressive site. Due to family considerations, I could never have a pair of ESLs, but it is fun to live vicariously through your terrific pictures.
They also zap flying insects and anything else that makes a conduction path between the stators.
Impressive site. Due to family considerations, I could never have a pair of ESLs, but it is fun to live vicariously through your terrific pictures.
Thank you Sir,
The only reason I haven't moved in with my GF is that she won't have my speakers in her living room... with the black grills on they look like the obelisks from 2001 Space Odysee
They also zap flying insects and anything else that makes a conduction path between the stators.
She'll get used to it. She just doesn't realize it yet. Then one day, you won't turn it on, and the TV will be playing through the crappy built-in speakers, and she'll realize what the fuss is all about. At least I assume... I have yet to experience wife acceptance :P Come to think of it, she still doesn't even know what my new amps look like since they're still in the boxes.
Where'd those lil Carvers go off to, BJ?
Where'd those lil Carvers go off to, BJ?
I haven't owned a Carver amp in like 2 years?
Impressive site. Due to family considerations, I could never have a pair of ESLs, but it is fun to live vicariously through your terrific pictures.
Thank you Sir,
The only reason I haven't moved in with my GF is that she won't have my speakers in her living room... with the black grills on they look like the obelisks from 2001 Space Odysee
They also zap flying insects and anything else that makes a conduction path between the stators.
DO NOT repeat DO NOT move in with her - yet. You must absolutely agree on this issue before making any such escalation of the relationship. Our hobby is a lifelong obsession - trying to live with someone that does not recognize that is a really bad move (it will not get better, the love will slowly wither and turn into woofer-argument hell). She may even talk you into getting one of those absurdly expensive Bose systems that sound like Bose. Get her commitment in writing, like a pre-nup, that your partner, "________ agrees to live with your speaker size and aesthetic choices, in sickness and in health, until death do you apart" Have it notarized (the UPS store will do that for 15 bucks, and you will give the notary a laugh) and framed, make one copy for each listening room. Add a word about subwoofers in there, and a clause that permits at least 7 real speakers (not in-walls) in the home theater area if you have one. Then move in with her and get ready to walk with her to the wall where the contract document is on display every time an argument about WAF pops up (of course, have several copies in reserve at a safe location - she will occasionally destroy the copy on display and claim it was stolen by eccentric crooks).
Just some advice from experience.
:)
OBG