Vinyl question

[thuffman03]

So I am getting into vinyl a bit.  I have bought a few albums and started looking at getting some more.  The question I have is that I have seen the same album but one is 33rpm and the other is 45rpm but LP size.  What format is better and why?

[Slim-Shaddy]

45 is better. More vinyl surface for the material in the grooves so you can get more detail.

[Kingman]

I've never seen an album at 45 RPM speed?? Is this info correct? 

[MacGeek]

I have seen more than one 12" 45.  I am not sure how the same amount of music (time wise) gets onto an album at 45 versus 33 rpm, unless the 33 version only has about 8 or 10 minutes of music on it.

[Anders]

I have lots of 45 RPM 12 inch single LPs with one song on each side and you can see wide groove spacing.
These records have deeper bass and better dynamic range but limited time per side.

[BrianT]

So I am getting into vinyl a bit.  I have bought a few albums and started looking at getting some more.  The question I have is that I have seen the same album but one is 33rpm and the other is 45rpm but LP size.  What format is better and why?

Tom.

Shape-Shifter is correct, a record playing at 45rpm, will transfer more detail than one playing at 33 rpm
You will normal find an single album 33rpm and a double album 45 rpm, you need more vinyl to cover the same amount of tracks as the grove is deeper and wider.
So anytime you can get an FULL album on 45, thats the way to go.

Brian

[Slim-Shaddy]

I have a couple 45 rpm 12" singles and a 45 rpm LP(Foo Fighters Wasted Light). The LP is split into 2 records with each side only containing 2-3 songs. That where the problem lies. As soon as you are getting into a side of a record, you have to get up and change it, but the sound is great.

[rgpit]

Similar concept as running a tape recorder at 3.75 IPS vs 7.5 IPS.

[Sir Thrift-a-Lot]

Shape Shifter is right about the consideration of having to flip after only two or three songs.   The other thing to consider is if the extra fidelity is worth the (usually considerable) extra expense.

[Kingman]

That would be tough....plus the extra cost of more than one record. I'd have to hear it to believe it ...

[schwarcw]

I have a number of 45 RPM pressings for lps that I also have the 33 RPM version.  There is definately a difference in dynamics, bass, detail and overall air.  The 45 RPM pressings of some reissues aren't that much more.  I think Fleetwood Mac's "Rumors" was $29.95 and $49.95 respectively.  It's all about what you can afford, the quality of your playback components, etc.  If you have a nice turntable, good cartridge, phono pre, and preamp the 45 RPM lps will really shine!

[Slim-Shaddy]

Well, the Foo Fighter album was about $23 through Amazon, which is about what all new albums printed on 180g vinyl are going for (at 33rpm). I haven't researched other 45 rpm records, so that's the only example I have.

[BrianT]

That would be tough....plus the extra cost of more than one record. I'd have to hear it to believe it ...

Wayne

Carverfest 2012, cabin11 come down and listen.
See ya there

Brian

[SunnyDaze]

Don't forget to adjust your anti-skating when playing a 45!

Glad to see you're getting into wax, Tom!

[Sir Thrift-a-Lot]

I have a number of 45 RPM pressings for lps that I also have the 33 RPM version.  There is definately a difference in dynamics, bass, detail and overall air.  The 45 RPM pressings of some reissues aren't that much more.  I think Fleetwood Mac's "Rumors" was $29.95 and $49.95 respectively.  It's all about what you can afford, the quality of your playback components, etc.  If you have a nice turntable, good cartridge, phono pre, and preamp the 45 RPM lps will really shine!

Perfect example.   The 45 did sound a little better to me than the 33, but neither sounded as good as the minty "Mastered by Capitol" early pressing I found in the buck bin.   If you learn how to read the deadwax, vinyl on the cheap is a goldmine!