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glue method to clean records
« on: December 14, 2014, 03:29:07 PM »
I chose an old Command Performance recording of Doc Severinsen (Tempestuous Trumpets) for this experiment. I cleaned both sides using regular approaches,  then poured wood glue on side A and let it dry for 36 hours.  The results are pretty good!   One problem - it uses glue up like nobodys business,  so I would reserve for a the few finds that merit wasting a bunch of glue on.


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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2014, 05:24:30 PM »
Buy another record, I can understand that it could work but what a tedious and difficult process.  As you note ut uses a shit load of glue.

I want an ultrasonic cleaner.  Price has to come down.
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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2014, 07:09:18 PM »
Ditto!  ;)
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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2014, 07:43:21 PM »
This seems like too much fun not to try.  I have a duplicate LP or two I can risk.  Thanks for sharing this.
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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2014, 08:20:22 PM »
Testing cheap Harbor Freight glue on side B of the same record. You can get a bottle with enough glue for 5 records for roughly 2 bucks.

Wonder what sound the (dry, removed) glue side would make if I played it back. Probably the same with left and right channels inverted. That may be an experiment for a future weekend.

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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2014, 08:26:03 PM »
Testing cheap Harbor Freight glue on side B of the same record. You can get a bottle with enough glue for 5 records for roughly 2 bucks.

Wonder what sound the (dry, removed) glue side would make if I played it back. Probably the same with left and right channels inverted. That may be an experiment for a future weekend.

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I imagine the same sound as one would make when they kill a stylus.

I've never tried the glue thing, but have read about it. To get a rare record back to listenable it's worth a try after some practice.

The next step after glue is wet sanding!!  http://www.instructables.com/id/Bring-Ruined-Records-Back-to-Life/


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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2014, 09:48:11 PM »
I have tried it once and it did do as stated,  cleaned better then expected.  It is though time consuming and a true waste of glue.

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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2014, 09:59:52 PM »
I was joking about testing the glue side.  Certainly not on the Van du Hul cart.
oBut here's my next angle to reduce glue costs further.   Hit as many estate sales as I can.  Invariably I find a bunch of hardware store chemicals selling for cheap,  including wood glue.  Stockpile a bunch of it and go to town on the most needy records.

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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2014, 10:30:07 PM »
Water it down too

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Re: glue method to clean records
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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2014, 08:52:43 AM »
Like I would have the time to do this???  I barely have time to listen to the mostly pristine vinyl that I do have.   

Or maybe I will do this after I test that big box of tubes I have....

Or re-foam those Advents....

Or replace the lamps in the Yamaha I dragged out the shed yesterday...

Or pull the amp from the console that I dragged into the shed yesterday....

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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2014, 01:07:06 PM »

Never do this.

I wouldn't try it.

This could be another alternative, when he pulled out the scissors I nearly cracked a rib.
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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2014, 01:45:32 PM »
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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2014, 06:57:14 PM »
Listening to side B of the Command record, just peeled the Harbor Freight wood glue off. This one took 24 hours longer to set than the more expensive Elmers glue,  but it may be a matter of taking more time to apply a thinner coat (the HF wood glue has gelatin consistency - not easy to pour).

The results are hard to argue with - huge improvement vs. regular cleaning methods.  Will continue using it with some older LPs in need of love.

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Re: glue method to clean records
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2014, 08:51:38 PM »
I've known about this for quite some time, but I've been too skeptical to try it. Until about an hour ago. My test record is a mono The Doors which was not listenable.

OBG, check out this thread. Cutting to page 34. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99837&page=34

There's some chatter about which glues to use. I didn't read too much, usually too much nonsense to sift through over there. I just happened to have Titebond II at the house, so that's what I'm using.