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Bang & olufsen turntable
« on: December 28, 2021, 05:17:04 AM »
I am looking for a B & O 4002 or 4004 turntable for parts.  Please let me know if you have one or if you know where I can find one.

Thanks and Happy New Year.

MG
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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2021, 09:28:47 AM »
I have a couple old B&Os but don't know the model number.   If I forget, remind me to check tonight.

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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2021, 09:34:24 AM »
Will do.  Many thanks
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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2021, 08:10:31 PM »
I have a pair of 5500.

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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2021, 08:03:40 AM »
Thanks, Mark.  I am not sure if the motor from your 5500 'tables will work or can be made to work in my 4002. The B & O turntable model numbers can be confusing.  Does your 5500 have a black sloping control panel on the right side, that also serves a a hidden place to park the tone arm assembly?
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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2021, 06:17:43 PM »
What part are you looking for.

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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2021, 06:36:00 AM »
Specifically, a type 551x or 552x DC motor.  Later 4002, the 4004 and 6000 models likely have these motor types.
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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2021, 06:53:29 AM »
Is that a platen motor, or arm motor.

A picture would be great if you have one, as I do have a 4002
lying around.

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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2021, 07:06:31 AM »
It's the platter motor.  Sorry I can't provide a pic, the motor was sent to be rebuilt and found to be trashed and unrepairable.

If you check the bottom of the 4002, there is a label indicating the model type (551x, 552x, etc).  Early versions used and A/C motor, which will not work.  Later versions were D/C.
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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2021, 10:03:25 AM »
Thanks, Mark.  I am not sure if the motor from your 5500 'tables will work or can be made to work in my 4002. The B & O turntable model numbers can be confusing.  Does your 5500 have a black sloping control panel on the right side, that also serves a a hidden place to park the tone arm assembly?

Looks like this one...

https://tmraudio.com/old-products/bang-olufsen-beogram-5500-turntable-mmc2-cartridge/

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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2021, 11:54:26 AM »
Thanks, Mark.  I need to do some research.
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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2021, 01:38:19 PM »
If you can't find your answer on line and want to just crack this open and see I'm okay with that.

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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2021, 05:36:27 PM »
It's the platter motor.  Sorry I can't provide a pic, the motor was sent to be rebuilt and found to be trashed and unrepairable.

If you check the bottom of the 4002, there is a label indicating the model type (551x, 552x, etc).  Early versions used and A/C motor, which will not work.  Later versions were D/C.

The B&O I have at home are TX and 6002. The motor for the TX is for belt drive and the 6002 is Direct Drive.
Take a look at the picture of the TX motor.

I think I have a 4000 in my office, I can check tomorrow

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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2021, 09:04:44 AM »
Brian and Mark-I did not expect there to be this kind of response to B & O gear.  I don't know if you are fans, or just found your 'tables along the way while looking for other things, but appreciate your help.

Brian,  The B & O 6002 has what is sometimes called magnetic drive and a very different technology than the 4002 uses.  The TX motor will, unfortunately, not fit in the 4002.  Regardless, I might be interested in the 6002.  Does it work?

Mark,  I appreciate your offer and while the motor will not work in my 4002, I might take you up on your offer to poke around in the 5500.  Do either of yours work?
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Re: Bang & olufsen turntable
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2021, 04:12:23 PM »
Brian and Mark-I did not expect there to be this kind of response to B & O gear.  I don't know if you are fans, or just found your 'tables along the way while looking for other things, but appreciate your help.

Greg

I love B&O 4000/6000 turntables, in the 70's i purchased a 4000 new from a dealer for 600 UK Pounds, I sold it when I moved to Canada.
Since then i have ha a couple of different 4000/6000 TT in my rig, due to the age of them they only worked for a year or so.

Sorry to tell you, the 6000 I have at the moment does not work, or it would be in my rig.

I did not make it into the office today, to take a look at the one I have there. I will check it out on Tuesday.

Happy New Year.

Brian
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