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Offline MasterBlaster

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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2011, 08:55:24 PM »
I'm not going to pay the $30. I'm going to join a rifle club instead.

Great job PA Game Commission!
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2011, 09:17:45 PM »
OBG, I felt no disrespect from you what so ever.   I hope that you weren't bothered by the tongue in cheek parts of my posts.   I think that we should all be able to discuss these things as adults and that our increasing inability to do so is one of the main things that is "broken" about our system.   I value your insights.   You are obviously an intelligent and successful individual.

For the record, none of this thread rises to the level of "offensive" for me, but I will say that being called a Marxist (I think that is what he was trying to spell) simply for expressing an opinion to the left of John McCain is a good example of the kind of negative discourse that damages our civic unity.
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2011, 10:12:32 PM »
I believe that the framework for such a system is in place, Pepe. I also believe that what makes public assistance not work are those who mooch off of the system. Again, it comes back to loopholes and exceptions.

It's also interesting to note how my friends and I have become far more fiscally conservative as we've gone through college and are now starting to become invested in the future of this great nation.

Well Al, would you rather have political rants on your highjacked threads or SHEEVS?
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2011, 10:19:12 PM »
At least SHEEVS was funny!!!   ;D
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2011, 10:21:02 PM »
And this crap isn't?  :o :o
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2011, 10:26:22 PM »
Quote from: SunnyDaze on July 22, 2011, 10:12:32 PM
political rants on your highjacked threads

I don't think this thread was hijacked at all.   There is a political reason that fees are being introduced at public venues.   I'll give you a hint, it is entirely predictable that retsalB retsaM would choose to join a private club rather than pay for a public one, one can hardly blame him.   I certainly don't.   Think about it.
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2011, 10:37:09 PM »
Oh, we did. Don't let Master Blaster think we didn't. :)

I think he just wanted someone to go shooting with. Instead, he got a treatise.  :laugh:

Are you going to the meeting tomorrow, Mark?
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2011, 10:58:37 PM »
Tomorrow?   I didn't realize there was one tomorrow.   I'll be seeing Tedeschi/Trucks.   Is the August one scheduled yet?
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2011, 11:54:54 PM »
I don't mind the dialogue. It has been entertaining. Thanks Elijah.
Imo, the discourse lies with those who think its the government's role to take care of them.

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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2011, 12:34:50 AM »
Discourse might get bumpy if we drive much further on it.

Is there a meeting meeting tomorrow?
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2011, 07:01:26 AM »
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Well Al, would you rather have political rants on your highjacked threads or SHEEVS?
...BTW...what happened to SHEEVS???   ???
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2011, 07:51:58 AM »
Quote from: markshan on July 22, 2011, 10:58:37 PM
Tomorrow?   I didn't realize there was one tomorrow.   I'll be seeing Tedeschi/Trucks.   Is the August one scheduled yet?

Me too!!
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2011, 08:41:04 AM »
Quote from: retsalB retsaM on July 22, 2011, 11:54:54 PM

Imo, the discourse lies with those who think its the government's role to take care of them.

I agree.   Like companies who think that the government should built their business infrastructure, recruit and train their workforce and in return they pay no taxes for twenty years then suddenly move their business to Mexico.   Those guys are leeches.
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2011, 08:42:15 AM »
Quote from: bmwr75 on July 23, 2011, 07:51:58 AM
Quote from: markshan on July 22, 2011, 10:58:37 PM
Tomorrow?   I didn't realize there was one tomorrow.   I'll be seeing Tedeschi/Trucks.   Is the August one scheduled yet?

Me too!!

You too "didn't realize there was one tomorrow" or you too "Tedeschi/Trucks"?
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Re: State run public shooting ranges now require a permit
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2011, 10:38:40 AM »
As for the fee, it sucks but nothing in life is free.  When the government offers something for "free", they stole the money from someone else in the form of a tax to pay for it.

Quote from: Kingman on July 23, 2011, 07:01:26 AM
...BTW...what happened to SHEEVS???   ???

SHEEVS's was was banned from the forum.

As for who pays what in federal income taxes, people who make less than $33,000 pay less than 2.7% of what is collected by the IRS.  Don't take my word for it.  I did a quick Goggle search and came up with hundreds of web sites that all say the same thing.  5% of the population pay over about 60% of the taxes collected by the IRS and the bottom 50% pay less than 3%.

Check out these sites.  They all report the same information:
http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html
http://www.american.com/archive/2007/november-december-magazine-contents/guess-who-really-pays-the-taxes
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/incometaxandtheirs/a/whopaysmost.htm
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/04/who-pays-taxes
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/08/how-much-americans-actually-pay-in-taxes/

These were the first ones that came up in my search in no particular order.  And there are 109 million results to choose from.

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