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Using Schiit SYS
« on: December 26, 2015, 01:44:04 AM »
I would like to reduce the gain between my preamp and power amp to facilitate finer volume control at lower levels. I'm thinking of Schiit SYS. It also dawned on me I can simply use my Soundcraftsmen RP-2215R EQ that I've owned since new in the late 70's. It has gain controls. Any thoughts?
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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2015, 02:48:40 AM »
I take it the power amp does not have gain controls or adjustable input sensitivity.  The Soundcraftsman will work just fine.  However, adding anything to the signal chain may increase noise and/or distortion.
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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2015, 10:17:46 AM »
@MacGeek. Correct, my  power amp (Phase Linear 400) has no gain controls. Will it cause less distortion hooking it up through the tape monitor loop or between preamp and power amp. I would like to use the EQ part to bring out the voices a bit when watching tv or movies. There is a simple defeat button.

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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2015, 10:21:06 AM »
Most noise that may be introduced is likely to come at high frequencies that neither of us can still hear.   The one danger with the Soundcraftsman (IMHO) is that it has boost as well as cut.   Accidentally power up with the sliders at +12 db one day and nobody will be encouraged by the results.   Have bj wire you up a simple passive attenuator box or even just add in-line attenuators.

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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2015, 10:22:40 AM »
Actually, I just Googled that SYS and it is exactly what I was suggesting bj wire up for you.   I think that is the perfect solution.

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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2015, 07:35:36 PM »
PBJ-I run my EQs between the pre and power amps, vs in a tape loop.  I believe, at least with my gear, the noise and distortion floor may rise with increases in output voltage, but with lower overall distortion than when in a tape loop.  To STaLs point, keep the sliders in the flat position.  To touch up the voices, slight amounts of boost (1 or 2 db) around 700 to 1,00hz should do the trick.
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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2015, 11:18:15 AM »
MacGeek, that's the plan but I got a line on a used SYS at a good price from one of our members. It gives me more options. If I use the EQ in the living room I might use the SYS in the bedroom.

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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2015, 02:12:48 PM »
PBJ-Please let us know what you think.
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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2015, 03:15:04 PM »
MacGeek... I'll post my results

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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2015, 05:03:46 PM »
MacGeek, that's the plan but I got a line on a used SYS at a good price from one of our members. It gives me more options. If I use the EQ in the living room I might use the SYS in the bedroom.

Given the new price, I'm guessing a used price is quite favorable.   If you don't take it, I may be interested.

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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2015, 05:57:58 PM »
Thrifty, I took it.

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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2015, 06:57:49 PM »
Good.   I think it is a better solution than your EQ for reasons I already stated.

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Re: Using Schiit SYS
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2015, 07:53:27 PM »
Bear in mind I used the EQ for years with no problem. I do know how to use it. The SYS is certainly a simpler solution regarding the volume issue.